How about: all important organizations are completely captured? We do need a great purge of all these lying, obtuse “leaders” (who are really followers). It would take a thermo-nuclear truth bomb detonating to make the masses realize we need such a purge. Like the embalmers’ clots scandal going viral. What else might produce such a result?
"The Deep State is not partisan. It is not beholden to a political party or an ideology. It is the source of the power and the money that are shaping the policy of the government and that do not come from elected officials or anywhere that the public has any influence over."
I beg to differ here, Debbie! I look at the deep state as follows. The deep state does indeed have an ideology. Zionism. The Israel lobby is part of it. If the deep state doesn't want something done, it will not be done. MAGA and MAHA are just two examples of this. As I usually say when someone makes a list of what someone in government SHOULD do, "How on God's green earth is any of that going to benefit Israel?".
On the other hand, if the deep state DOES want something done, you can bet your last petrodollar it will happen.
A lot of people have a hard time wrapping their heads around what I have been saying for the past 20 years: " Joe McCarthy was an American patriot. He tried to root out Communism in the US. For that he was ridiculed and run out of the district of criminals. He died on May the 2nd, 1957. Six and a half year after his death (48 y.o.) at Bethesda, MD the Communists got a firm grip on the United States (11/22/1963), and has had it ever since. The rest of the cold war was just kabuki theatre. I would not be surprised if the deep state killed him.
Proof that what I'm saying is true can be found by looking at the similarities between the USSR and the US today. The only card carrying Communists in the USSR were Khazarian mafioso. A large majority of the people in DC today are ditto.
EDIT: Khazars hate Christians in general, and Jesus Christ in particular. Christianity, or any religion for that matter, was outlawed in the USSR. How is Christianity doing in "the west" today?
Very good interview Debbie. You always give us a level-headed view of the topics. I appreciate that you recalibrate back to the essence of situations. People get worked up, and want to blame somebody. Your litmus test is a good one to keep in mind. Are we being led into division? Who benefits from that outcome?
Hello Debbie Lerman. You nailed it right here: "The Deep State is a cartel of financial institutions, global corporations, government agencies, military and intelligence alliances, and Silicon Valley. And it is all of these power entities acting together outside the bounds of the law and the Constitution in order to get more power and resources." [End quote]
As I've been saying for decades: It's Corporate Racketeering, period. CORPORATE RACKETEERING.
Another facet of CORPORATE RACKETEERING is Corporate/capitalism by a financial 'elite'. The same 'elite' have been in control of ALL trade, shipping, and asset syndication for centuries. *Franchisee* agreements between banks are all sanctioned by the Bank(s) for International Settlement and World Bank systems. Title and Corporate Charter "agent" accounts are never disclosed...
The public remains confused by select media propaganda and official lies. It's a shit show...
In 2006, Emory University psychology professor Drew Westen, PhD and colleagues, published a study in the Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience (Vol. 18, No. 11, pages 1,947-1,958) describing what happens in the human brain when confronted with information that contradicts existing beliefs.
Using functional neuroimaging (fMRI) researchers found brain areas responsible for reasoning did not show increased activity as participants drew conclusions about the information. Instead, brain areas controlling emotions lit up. Once the person finds a way to dismiss threatening information, the brain’s reward circuits fire — as if finding a reason to disbelieve something uncomfortable was itself pleasurable. This is not a character flaw, it is a feature of the human brain.
The results are not only psychological, they are also political and economic; a function of deliberate, sustained, extraordinarily well-funded manipulation of human consciousness by institutions whose profitability depends on human beings remaining unaware, confused, unhealthy, compliant and consuming.
Study results suggest, Westen says, that the notion of "partisan reasoning" is an oxymoron, and that most of the time, partisans feel their way to beliefs rather than use their thinking caps. Drawing on this and other research, Westen wrote "The Political Brain: The Role of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation" (Public Affairs, 2007) in which he argues that in politics, "when reason and emotion collide, emotion invariably wins" and it isn't only partisans who think with their guts in politics. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/01/060131092225.htm
July 11, 2026 Update: You can change your own brain however you cannot change the structure of someone else’s brain. What you can do, is change the way you appeal to others. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCV8PCU8YGM
Hello Pippi. A human being can only awaken themself. Other human beings awaken only when they are ready. Humans who are consciously awake can become the example and invitation for their fellow man.
You 2 need 2b honest to your audience. More than that, concise and bot even use these Deep State, Cabal, Illuminati BS words that gives them power and mystery when global warfare is so frigging easy to disect, selling books with the profiteer gaslighters, you deserve their fate, no metals.
Here2 righteous brevity learn
KNOW YOUR ENEMY
It's in chapter 2 of Sun Tzu's monumental Art of War
As far as the Global BS Wars we're engaged and leading, it's the FEDeral Reserve families. SEE #6, #9, & #11.
Make the current and past leadership look bad so the "good guys" can gain our trust and keep us believing in the false democracy that is representative democracy.
They're making the past predator class look bad so they can step in as the good guys.
It's just like in wrestling.
That's why they let Biden fumble around on stage numerous times for a while before helping him off.
That's why Trump is allowed to say crazy things. You would think they would have coached him later to not or threatened him and I'm not talking about the fake assasination attempts.
That's why Fauci is getting the blame (not the many others that also orchestrated con-vid).
A few years ago the WEF had a presentation on how to regain trust. They mentioned how people were disappointed in politicians and experts. Ok. But their solution was to double down on lying. You would think that in a publicised event they would have mentioned regaining trust by being honest, even if they were pretending. No, and it was also interesting that they had that James Bond villain, Klaus as their head man and now another predator perp.... Make the past management look bad.
That's why everything is so absurd these days.
So the next crop of the predator class can step in and save the day and regain our trust. But it'll fail because we're no longer tribalist and cheer for stupid teams.
Instead we cheer for the truth. Fuck tribalism and the group think that comes along with it. Only the obsolete still follow team sports when it comes to important things.
It’s so interesting to look back on when global corporations supplanted national governments or monarchs as world controllers. Did it start with the development of ships that could travel beyond known territories and battleships that could protect merchants’ interests?
Interesting? It looks to me to be fundamental to the bizarre lens we are being offered through which to view the world.
Folk are ofc trapped by their education. I had a good education in the early 1960s and the form of government back then, here in the UK, was technocracy. I worked for HMG in the UK as a technocrat but got out when it began, 30 odd years ago to resemble a corporatocracy.
Hello Debbie. Excellent question. Piracy and trade extortion date back to Phoenician domination of Mediterranean ports and shipping. As many cultures and language usages confounded trade (piracy) agreement, the "Word" (based on the Phoenician alphabet) became the object of negotiation and maritime settlement. All the rest became History...
They crashed the Guilder, transferring the assets to themselves, and used that to start the Bank of "England'. Few are financially literate, know how they make more money on the dump, than the pump. Many Brits I speak with about the square mile City of London, have no idea what it is. History is rhyming as they reset the new sea lanes, new silk road, new maritime silk road. They have dumped, tunnelled & hollowed out past strong currencies and are transferring yet again. Note where they have built up the rule of law. Assets owners do not invest where there is risk. Also overlay military action on these new routes. Some are both land and maritime hubs. Makes more sense than your "error by omission' evening "news." Start with Ukraine. It must be destroyed before the new IoT, 5 & 6G system, is rebuilt. Oh look...they even get us to pay for its destruction AND rebuilding.
Darwin Award for us as we watch and fill our "we are too busy" minds with endless SportsBall matches and details. It rhymes with watching all the Irish oats, produce, wool, meat etc, being loaded onto British ships and telling your descendants about the "great famine."
I worked for the Greater London Council in the 80s. The City of London was seen as, and treated as, as separate country within the UK. If anyone is at all interested in where the real power resides anywhere in the Western world I would warmly advise a deep dive into the structure and function of the Square Mile .
How about: all important organizations are completely captured? We do need a great purge of all these lying, obtuse “leaders” (who are really followers). It would take a thermo-nuclear truth bomb detonating to make the masses realize we need such a purge. Like the embalmers’ clots scandal going viral. What else might produce such a result?
"The Deep State is not partisan. It is not beholden to a political party or an ideology. It is the source of the power and the money that are shaping the policy of the government and that do not come from elected officials or anywhere that the public has any influence over."
I beg to differ here, Debbie! I look at the deep state as follows. The deep state does indeed have an ideology. Zionism. The Israel lobby is part of it. If the deep state doesn't want something done, it will not be done. MAGA and MAHA are just two examples of this. As I usually say when someone makes a list of what someone in government SHOULD do, "How on God's green earth is any of that going to benefit Israel?".
On the other hand, if the deep state DOES want something done, you can bet your last petrodollar it will happen.
A lot of people have a hard time wrapping their heads around what I have been saying for the past 20 years: " Joe McCarthy was an American patriot. He tried to root out Communism in the US. For that he was ridiculed and run out of the district of criminals. He died on May the 2nd, 1957. Six and a half year after his death (48 y.o.) at Bethesda, MD the Communists got a firm grip on the United States (11/22/1963), and has had it ever since. The rest of the cold war was just kabuki theatre. I would not be surprised if the deep state killed him.
Proof that what I'm saying is true can be found by looking at the similarities between the USSR and the US today. The only card carrying Communists in the USSR were Khazarian mafioso. A large majority of the people in DC today are ditto.
EDIT: Khazars hate Christians in general, and Jesus Christ in particular. Christianity, or any religion for that matter, was outlawed in the USSR. How is Christianity doing in "the west" today?
Very good interview Debbie. You always give us a level-headed view of the topics. I appreciate that you recalibrate back to the essence of situations. People get worked up, and want to blame somebody. Your litmus test is a good one to keep in mind. Are we being led into division? Who benefits from that outcome?
Nobody with 2 cents of common sense still believes trump is the good guy. We were played.
I’m not a paid subscriber to Doc Malik so I cannot watch this interview.
Like you I am a paid subscriber here, but not with Doc Malik.
Debbie! Can you please cross post it so that at least your paid subscribers can see it?
I'm not a paid subscriber to Debbie's 'stack, so I can't watch it either.
Same here unfortunately. I feel like… if it is something we should really know, this info should be made accessible without a paywall.
That's one of the many reasons why I like Sasha Latypova. Everything is freely accessible for a month before it goes behind a paywall.
Hello Debbie Lerman. You nailed it right here: "The Deep State is a cartel of financial institutions, global corporations, government agencies, military and intelligence alliances, and Silicon Valley. And it is all of these power entities acting together outside the bounds of the law and the Constitution in order to get more power and resources." [End quote]
As I've been saying for decades: It's Corporate Racketeering, period. CORPORATE RACKETEERING.
Another facet of CORPORATE RACKETEERING is Corporate/capitalism by a financial 'elite'. The same 'elite' have been in control of ALL trade, shipping, and asset syndication for centuries. *Franchisee* agreements between banks are all sanctioned by the Bank(s) for International Settlement and World Bank systems. Title and Corporate Charter "agent" accounts are never disclosed...
The public remains confused by select media propaganda and official lies. It's a shit show...
In 2006, Emory University psychology professor Drew Westen, PhD and colleagues, published a study in the Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience (Vol. 18, No. 11, pages 1,947-1,958) describing what happens in the human brain when confronted with information that contradicts existing beliefs.
Using functional neuroimaging (fMRI) researchers found brain areas responsible for reasoning did not show increased activity as participants drew conclusions about the information. Instead, brain areas controlling emotions lit up. Once the person finds a way to dismiss threatening information, the brain’s reward circuits fire — as if finding a reason to disbelieve something uncomfortable was itself pleasurable. This is not a character flaw, it is a feature of the human brain.
The results are not only psychological, they are also political and economic; a function of deliberate, sustained, extraordinarily well-funded manipulation of human consciousness by institutions whose profitability depends on human beings remaining unaware, confused, unhealthy, compliant and consuming.
Study results suggest, Westen says, that the notion of "partisan reasoning" is an oxymoron, and that most of the time, partisans feel their way to beliefs rather than use their thinking caps. Drawing on this and other research, Westen wrote "The Political Brain: The Role of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation" (Public Affairs, 2007) in which he argues that in politics, "when reason and emotion collide, emotion invariably wins" and it isn't only partisans who think with their guts in politics. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/01/060131092225.htm
That is really interesting Doreen, as I have seen people respond to 'information' as if their survival or sense of self is threatened.
I am going to look at the link and find out more , as it's a puzzle about why people seem oblivious to what is happening . Thank you
You don’t have to be a politician to pretend you don't understand. - Paul Vonharnish - (11/17/2025)
July 11, 2026 Update: You can change your own brain however you cannot change the structure of someone else’s brain. What you can do, is change the way you appeal to others. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCV8PCU8YGM
I have had very little success trying to wake those pretending to be asleep.
Hello Pippi. A human being can only awaken themself. Other human beings awaken only when they are ready. Humans who are consciously awake can become the example and invitation for their fellow man.
You 2 need 2b honest to your audience. More than that, concise and bot even use these Deep State, Cabal, Illuminati BS words that gives them power and mystery when global warfare is so frigging easy to disect, selling books with the profiteer gaslighters, you deserve their fate, no metals.
Here2 righteous brevity learn
KNOW YOUR ENEMY
It's in chapter 2 of Sun Tzu's monumental Art of War
As far as the Global BS Wars we're engaged and leading, it's the FEDeral Reserve families. SEE #6, #9, & #11.
The Covid Audit:
https://WHOtoSTOP.org
Read it, Spread it, Be blessed
Yep!
The deep state has a different strategy now.
Make the current and past leadership look bad so the "good guys" can gain our trust and keep us believing in the false democracy that is representative democracy.
https://substack.com/@robc137/note/c-286923523?r=63lh2&utm_source=notes-share-action&utm_medium=web
They're making the past predator class look bad so they can step in as the good guys.
It's just like in wrestling.
That's why they let Biden fumble around on stage numerous times for a while before helping him off.
That's why Trump is allowed to say crazy things. You would think they would have coached him later to not or threatened him and I'm not talking about the fake assasination attempts.
That's why Fauci is getting the blame (not the many others that also orchestrated con-vid).
A few years ago the WEF had a presentation on how to regain trust. They mentioned how people were disappointed in politicians and experts. Ok. But their solution was to double down on lying. You would think that in a publicised event they would have mentioned regaining trust by being honest, even if they were pretending. No, and it was also interesting that they had that James Bond villain, Klaus as their head man and now another predator perp.... Make the past management look bad.
That's why everything is so absurd these days.
So the next crop of the predator class can step in and save the day and regain our trust. But it'll fail because we're no longer tribalist and cheer for stupid teams.
Instead we cheer for the truth. Fuck tribalism and the group think that comes along with it. Only the obsolete still follow team sports when it comes to important things.
Well said - thank you!
John Coleman's Committee of 300 and
Trotskyites who control the drug trust
Going back to the East India Co.
It’s so interesting to look back on when global corporations supplanted national governments or monarchs as world controllers. Did it start with the development of ships that could travel beyond known territories and battleships that could protect merchants’ interests?
Interesting? It looks to me to be fundamental to the bizarre lens we are being offered through which to view the world.
Folk are ofc trapped by their education. I had a good education in the early 1960s and the form of government back then, here in the UK, was technocracy. I worked for HMG in the UK as a technocrat but got out when it began, 30 odd years ago to resemble a corporatocracy.
Hello Debbie. Excellent question. Piracy and trade extortion date back to Phoenician domination of Mediterranean ports and shipping. As many cultures and language usages confounded trade (piracy) agreement, the "Word" (based on the Phoenician alphabet) became the object of negotiation and maritime settlement. All the rest became History...
The Bank of England in late 17th century was founded.
Moved from the Dutch West India Company with Dutch King Willam of Orange after Cromwell murdered Charles l.
They crashed the Guilder, transferring the assets to themselves, and used that to start the Bank of "England'. Few are financially literate, know how they make more money on the dump, than the pump. Many Brits I speak with about the square mile City of London, have no idea what it is. History is rhyming as they reset the new sea lanes, new silk road, new maritime silk road. They have dumped, tunnelled & hollowed out past strong currencies and are transferring yet again. Note where they have built up the rule of law. Assets owners do not invest where there is risk. Also overlay military action on these new routes. Some are both land and maritime hubs. Makes more sense than your "error by omission' evening "news." Start with Ukraine. It must be destroyed before the new IoT, 5 & 6G system, is rebuilt. Oh look...they even get us to pay for its destruction AND rebuilding.
Darwin Award for us as we watch and fill our "we are too busy" minds with endless SportsBall matches and details. It rhymes with watching all the Irish oats, produce, wool, meat etc, being loaded onto British ships and telling your descendants about the "great famine."
Mission Accomplished.
I worked for the Greater London Council in the 80s. The City of London was seen as, and treated as, as separate country within the UK. If anyone is at all interested in where the real power resides anywhere in the Western world I would warmly advise a deep dive into the structure and function of the Square Mile .
I'm looking forward to listening to this discussion between two of my favorite fearless truth-tellers!
Thanks Margaret Anna! 🥰💕💜
I'm listening to Part 1 right now and so appreciate your lucid explanation that Mistakes Were NOT Made!
• https://substack.com/@margaretannaalice/note/c-292082882