Ms. Lerman, I have addressed this issue numerous times, and I’ve even hit the “unsubscribe” button, even though I have not subscribed in the first place. I do not want to be a subscriber to your substack and I did not subscribe to it. How, you got me listed as a subscriber to your substack is a puzzle to me; but I tried to stop this transaction when I saw a pending charge for it. I’ve asked several times that you withdraw this unauthorized charge! Please return my money, to which you have no legitimate claim!
At its heart, vegetative training represents a form of knowledge that makes visible the deep interaction between biology and biography—between the human organism and life as it has been lived and felt. Experience is not treated as a purely psychological narrative layered onto a biological substrate.
Rather, life experience is understood as something that continuously shapes, modulates, and sometimes distorts the organism’s spontaneous regulatory movements. Biography leaves traces in biology, and biology, in turn, constrains what can be experienced, felt, and integrated.
I disagree with key aspects of Lerman's analysis, in that I believe we have to believe in greater tactical opportunities within the conservative movement than anywhere else, but even readers who reject my POV will find my latest, on the failure of conservative Christian writer and pundit Eric Metaxas to keep talking about the Covidvax Harms, interesting. https://dissidentcon.substack.com/p/eric-metaxas-no-longer-a-truth-teller
The framing of a "civil rights" movement is much better than the way most people have thought about opposition to Covid et al. It is more useful and more intellectually productive. However, if Covid was a military assault and intelligence psy-op run on us, by the government we think of as "ours", I wonder if a "civil rights movement" is the right framing? An argument can be made that the USA became one big concentration camp, our movement and association limited by govt diktat, our ability to hold a job conditional upon getting a toxic injection. It is fair to describe the aforementioned as war-time conditions. There was a overt war on US! And like war, the first casualty is truth.
Firstly, I can't get the video to play here on your Substack. The only thing that works is the link to Ms. McGary's Substack where the video does play. Also, I originally posted this comment to Ms. McGary's Substack by mistake.
Now my comment:
I think the three "Camps" you describe, or the author whose book you read describes, starting @44:30, only apply to people who were originally "Normies" at the start of Covid. Those Camps don't apply to those of us who were "awake" long before Covid, and it is precisely we who were among the first to reject the Covid narrative. We saw clear through it since Day 1. SINCE DAY ONE!
We don't belong in Camp 2 either, for the same reasons. Camp 2 basically describes limited hangouts, and we recognize those from a mile away.
I'm not sure we belong in Camp 3 either, at least not all of us. We don't reject everything out of hand. We can recognize official anouncements that are truthful and can be taken seriously, but also those that cannot. In short, we long ago learned discernment.
These three Camps may be a useful excercise to explain things to Normies, but there's a healthy percentage of us who don't need these kinds of simplifications to explain things that are staring us straight in the face. We are the hardcore 10%-15% that was often mentioned during the height of Covid that cannot be bamboozled under almost any circumstances.
Also, I frankly distrust anyone over 40 who claims to have been a Normie until Covid. Someone that age is old enough to understand the blatant and brazen conspiratorial aspects of 9/11, and the older ones the conspiratorial aspects of the JFK assassination as well. Individually or both taken together, those events alone offer more than enough fuel to distrust the government, in addition to the crimes of starting illegal wars all over the world and the overall corruption everywhere.
For someone over 40 with at least half a brain to claim that they were an unaware and unknowing Normie until Covid is frankly not believable.
On a positive note, this interviewer was better than that insufferable Cornelia Mrose, which you and Sasha talked to last year. What a cringey discussion that was during the second half of it.
Ms. Lehman, you have charged my credit card for a subscription I did not request and do not want! Please be so decent and professional as to cancel that unauthorized transaction!
Oh no! I am in Camp 3 and have nobody to play with. I am guessing Camp 3 members are more spiritual; we have figured out that these are battles against evil. It is a very dissociative existence. I have come to detest the term "public private partnership" just as much as the word "bipartisan". Makes me want to vomit. Oh, and the notion of "restoring trust" in our public institutions. I am not sure that's even possible. Civil rights will be a forever battle. Thanks for your insight and for being a truth-seeker!
"Oh, and the notion of "restoring trust" in our public institutions. I am not sure that's even possible."
The first time I read something about "rebuilding trust" I tossed my cookies. When I lose trust in someone or something it is gone for ever. Who do these idiots think they're dealing with?
It is sad when we are unable to be understood or even heard by friends, family and those we thought were comrades. Often it's because our knowledge encompasses a larger, deeper or more focused experience. Never despair Ms. Lerman because I believe you must move others as you have moved me and I have dwelt in the 3rd camp longer than most. Your vision is clear and your motivation is just and your sincerity is persuasive. We are more than a few and we have truth and virtue as our guides. Thank you for speaking, writing and being you.
informational current control goes as usual. GOF is protected, glyphosphate is needed for national security, we are talking about war in Iran. Keyfabe rules.
Maybe you think it is perfectly safe to reconstruct 1918 flu virus. Then you got your wish. We are still breeding bats to make new and improved coronaviruses and vaccines.
Could you elaborate? Don't you agree that viruses could gain new functions because of lab experiments? I hope you are not in "no viruses"all "terrain" "maismas" view of microbiology.
The original definition of virus is poison. A virus as defined today, a being too small to be seen in a microscope, and never having been isolated........
Don't you get it? It's bullshit. It's a lie. Yes, people are being poisoned by the pharmaceutical industry, but that's all it is. Poison. There is no reason to get all hung up on viruses. That's fear porn.
Viruses are visible in the electron microscope and are constantly seen in tissues and isolated by PEG/ NACL precipitation and ultracentrifugation, and they are sequenced; more than 2 million genomes have already been deposited in NCBI database. They are not isolated in free-living conditions because viruses are obligate parasites and can't live without the host. The same is true for malaria parasite. Unfortunately, the same players who told us that masks can protect from viruses are propagating bs about "the virus was never isolated", it is people who want to make us helpless. They use 19 century vocabulary and science to reason about viruses and microbiology. It is funny but sad. Viruses are easily separated from exosomes by ultracentrifugation, easily detected by electron microscopy, and easily sequenced by next gen RNA or DNA long-read sequencing. But you don't need to be scared for any virus or any pathogen. We can use convalescent plasma and monoclonal antibodies, as Regeneron, GSK, and Eli Lily made for this pandemic. Their use was limited, except for Florida, and toxic gene therapy provaccine was promoted. No viruses or toxic vaccines for viruses are the same wodoo science, which s good for profits and bad for people's health.
Debbie, I was just watching this last night. It is too bad that many of your peers have pushed you away recently for doing just what brought you to notice in the first place. That is, using your clear analysis of available information to state what is going on, under the narratives. I am glad to know you, and you should know that I applaud you for fearlessly telling us how you see things.
Ms. Lerman: you have put a charge on my credit card for a subscription I did not request and do not want. Please be so decent as to withdraw this unauthorized transaction.
Ms. Lerman, I have addressed this issue numerous times, and I’ve even hit the “unsubscribe” button, even though I have not subscribed in the first place. I do not want to be a subscriber to your substack and I did not subscribe to it. How, you got me listed as a subscriber to your substack is a puzzle to me; but I tried to stop this transaction when I saw a pending charge for it. I’ve asked several times that you withdraw this unauthorized charge! Please return my money, to which you have no legitimate claim!
Thank you. You are not alone
Here is one exit - anti-dualistic
At its heart, vegetative training represents a form of knowledge that makes visible the deep interaction between biology and biography—between the human organism and life as it has been lived and felt. Experience is not treated as a purely psychological narrative layered onto a biological substrate.
Rather, life experience is understood as something that continuously shapes, modulates, and sometimes distorts the organism’s spontaneous regulatory movements. Biography leaves traces in biology, and biology, in turn, constrains what can be experienced, felt, and integrated.
https://vegetativetraining.wordpress.com/vegetative-training-self-regulation-experience-and-the-expansion-of-possibility/
I disagree with key aspects of Lerman's analysis, in that I believe we have to believe in greater tactical opportunities within the conservative movement than anywhere else, but even readers who reject my POV will find my latest, on the failure of conservative Christian writer and pundit Eric Metaxas to keep talking about the Covidvax Harms, interesting. https://dissidentcon.substack.com/p/eric-metaxas-no-longer-a-truth-teller
The framing of a "civil rights" movement is much better than the way most people have thought about opposition to Covid et al. It is more useful and more intellectually productive. However, if Covid was a military assault and intelligence psy-op run on us, by the government we think of as "ours", I wonder if a "civil rights movement" is the right framing? An argument can be made that the USA became one big concentration camp, our movement and association limited by govt diktat, our ability to hold a job conditional upon getting a toxic injection. It is fair to describe the aforementioned as war-time conditions. There was a overt war on US! And like war, the first casualty is truth.
Firstly, I can't get the video to play here on your Substack. The only thing that works is the link to Ms. McGary's Substack where the video does play. Also, I originally posted this comment to Ms. McGary's Substack by mistake.
Now my comment:
I think the three "Camps" you describe, or the author whose book you read describes, starting @44:30, only apply to people who were originally "Normies" at the start of Covid. Those Camps don't apply to those of us who were "awake" long before Covid, and it is precisely we who were among the first to reject the Covid narrative. We saw clear through it since Day 1. SINCE DAY ONE!
We don't belong in Camp 2 either, for the same reasons. Camp 2 basically describes limited hangouts, and we recognize those from a mile away.
I'm not sure we belong in Camp 3 either, at least not all of us. We don't reject everything out of hand. We can recognize official anouncements that are truthful and can be taken seriously, but also those that cannot. In short, we long ago learned discernment.
These three Camps may be a useful excercise to explain things to Normies, but there's a healthy percentage of us who don't need these kinds of simplifications to explain things that are staring us straight in the face. We are the hardcore 10%-15% that was often mentioned during the height of Covid that cannot be bamboozled under almost any circumstances.
Also, I frankly distrust anyone over 40 who claims to have been a Normie until Covid. Someone that age is old enough to understand the blatant and brazen conspiratorial aspects of 9/11, and the older ones the conspiratorial aspects of the JFK assassination as well. Individually or both taken together, those events alone offer more than enough fuel to distrust the government, in addition to the crimes of starting illegal wars all over the world and the overall corruption everywhere.
For someone over 40 with at least half a brain to claim that they were an unaware and unknowing Normie until Covid is frankly not believable.
On a positive note, this interviewer was better than that insufferable Cornelia Mrose, which you and Sasha talked to last year. What a cringey discussion that was during the second half of it.
Ms. Lehman, you have charged my credit card for a subscription I did not request and do not want! Please be so decent and professional as to cancel that unauthorized transaction!
Oh no! I am in Camp 3 and have nobody to play with. I am guessing Camp 3 members are more spiritual; we have figured out that these are battles against evil. It is a very dissociative existence. I have come to detest the term "public private partnership" just as much as the word "bipartisan". Makes me want to vomit. Oh, and the notion of "restoring trust" in our public institutions. I am not sure that's even possible. Civil rights will be a forever battle. Thanks for your insight and for being a truth-seeker!
"Oh, and the notion of "restoring trust" in our public institutions. I am not sure that's even possible."
The first time I read something about "rebuilding trust" I tossed my cookies. When I lose trust in someone or something it is gone for ever. Who do these idiots think they're dealing with?
Never again! Do not obey! Do not comply!
Great podcast!
It is sad when we are unable to be understood or even heard by friends, family and those we thought were comrades. Often it's because our knowledge encompasses a larger, deeper or more focused experience. Never despair Ms. Lerman because I believe you must move others as you have moved me and I have dwelt in the 3rd camp longer than most. Your vision is clear and your motivation is just and your sincerity is persuasive. We are more than a few and we have truth and virtue as our guides. Thank you for speaking, writing and being you.
informational current control goes as usual. GOF is protected, glyphosphate is needed for national security, we are talking about war in Iran. Keyfabe rules.
GoF is male bovine fecal matter.
Maybe you think it is perfectly safe to reconstruct 1918 flu virus. Then you got your wish. We are still breeding bats to make new and improved coronaviruses and vaccines.
https://blog.whitecoatwaste.org/2026/01/12/nih-continues-to-waste-millions-building-wuhan-west-bat-lab-at-colorado-state-university/
https://www.science.org/content/article/researcher-1918-flu-virus-takes-over-niaid
I didn't say it is imposible to make more potent poison. I said that gain of funktion is BS.
Could you elaborate? Don't you agree that viruses could gain new functions because of lab experiments? I hope you are not in "no viruses"all "terrain" "maismas" view of microbiology.
The original definition of virus is poison. A virus as defined today, a being too small to be seen in a microscope, and never having been isolated........
Don't you get it? It's bullshit. It's a lie. Yes, people are being poisoned by the pharmaceutical industry, but that's all it is. Poison. There is no reason to get all hung up on viruses. That's fear porn.
Viruses are visible in the electron microscope and are constantly seen in tissues and isolated by PEG/ NACL precipitation and ultracentrifugation, and they are sequenced; more than 2 million genomes have already been deposited in NCBI database. They are not isolated in free-living conditions because viruses are obligate parasites and can't live without the host. The same is true for malaria parasite. Unfortunately, the same players who told us that masks can protect from viruses are propagating bs about "the virus was never isolated", it is people who want to make us helpless. They use 19 century vocabulary and science to reason about viruses and microbiology. It is funny but sad. Viruses are easily separated from exosomes by ultracentrifugation, easily detected by electron microscopy, and easily sequenced by next gen RNA or DNA long-read sequencing. But you don't need to be scared for any virus or any pathogen. We can use convalescent plasma and monoclonal antibodies, as Regeneron, GSK, and Eli Lily made for this pandemic. Their use was limited, except for Florida, and toxic gene therapy provaccine was promoted. No viruses or toxic vaccines for viruses are the same wodoo science, which s good for profits and bad for people's health.
Debbie, I was just watching this last night. It is too bad that many of your peers have pushed you away recently for doing just what brought you to notice in the first place. That is, using your clear analysis of available information to state what is going on, under the narratives. I am glad to know you, and you should know that I applaud you for fearlessly telling us how you see things.
Thanks so much and right back atcha! Your work is so crucial and will serve as an important record for posterity!
Well, thanks for that Debbie!
Ms. Lerman: you have put a charge on my credit card for a subscription I did not request and do not want. Please be so decent as to withdraw this unauthorized transaction.
How is that even possible? Have you given her your credit card information?